Hello Z,
Where are you trying to go with this? Are we looking at this as an MOQ analysis, because some of the terms seem SOM value laden to begin with? Some of the terms have multiple meanings and historical senses, while others seem to have colors and senses in a cultural sense that may depart from if not contradict the intellectual sense. so... let me know...thanks--mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zenith Uzbeckistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: [MD] A Semantics Question What is meant by sophistication or complexity, and how do they relate to the idea of "progress"? Does progress exist in any real sense? Is increased complexity always a step forward? Is there such a thing as something becoming too sophisticated, so that it has a lesser Quality? In ZMM, Pirsig talks about a widening of channels versus a deepening of them: (help me out on the actual quote please... I know its early in the book) Does progress (maybe akin to widening) always come at the cost of sustainability (deepening)? One example I can think of is reproduction. It's progress in the sense of the mixing of genes, (increased complexity) which comes at the cost of decreased sustainability (only half the parent's genes are passed on, problems occur in pregnancy, ect). Of course, species would not be able to survive (sustain themselves) if they did not constantly change and become more complex. This is because they (the species) must constantly compete with other life forms which also constantly progress. Are these even the right questions to be asking? What are your thoughts? _________________________________________________________________ When your life is on the go—take your life with you. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298558/direct/01/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
