Hello Christoffer! 22 Oct. you wrote:
> "Phaedrus remembered now that it had bothered him a little that in the > Odyssey, Homer seemed at times to be equating Quality and celebrity. > Perhaps in Homer's time, when evolution had not yet transcended the > social level into the intellectual, the two were the same." - Lila > p123? You left it without commented, but this is a telling passage. It shows that Pirsig (when writing freely) sees the intellectual level emerging after Homer's time something that makes the Aretê era referred to in ZAMM, identical to the social level (when it was leading edge). Thus what replaced it - SOM in ZAMM - is the MOQ's intellectual level. Perhaps a little explanation regarding the " the two were the same." part. He means that Quality and celebrity - as social value - were identical, meaning that Quality was centered at the social level (it was Q-evolutions "leading edge). Nowadays Quality is centered at intellect and it's next to impossible to trespass its S/O perimeter. PS It was this passage that made Paul Turner write to Pirsig in 2003. PPS Why does Pirsig never compare ZAMM to the MOQ? IMO because it reveals the Intellect=S/O context. The question then is why this is anathema? IMO because Pirsig (after finding that Phaedrus had wandered outside intellect's perimeter) lost heart and made it back by changing "intellect" from the S/O (that Phaedrus had seen from outside intellect) into the thinking realm that the 4th. level likes to call "intellect". Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
