Agreed Marsha, I sometimes think you're the one person who "really" gets it around here.
The so called "Copenhagen interpretation" is not science, at any rate it's low-quality science. A convenience, a convention that science uses whilst making up recipes and multi-million dollar funding applications to use the Large Hadron Collider. Nice work if you can get it ;-) Trouble is some people choose to see such popularizations of lousy science as representative of science, and operate on the basis that science is therefore itself lousy. Regards Ian On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:51 AM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 06:40 AM 11/23/2008, you wrote: > >> 'The New Physics and Cosmology Dialogues with the Dalai Lama' edited by >> Arthur Zajonc. > > > "ANTON ZEILINGER: The problem is related to the question Your Holiness > raised yesterday: How can we validate cognition without any truly existent > object? I don't accept Arthur's position, although I admit it is > unquestionably possible. I don't accept it because, if I apply quantum > analysis and the superposition principle to everything, then everything > dissolves and loses its well-defined properties. I must be careful about > how I speak and what questions I ask. So to make sense of what I am doing, > I choose not to apply my quantum analysis to the pieces of the apparatus. I > simply posit them as existing, with well-defined properties. I restrict > myself, in the Copenhagen interpretation, to making the statements about > properties of the quantum objects independent of the apparatus. I have > accepted the apparatus beforehand as existing and as well defined." > (P. 152) > > > And I shouldn't be able to recognize that this is playing with a marked > deck? Geez. > > > > > > . > . > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a reflection > of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end. > . > . > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
