Beautiful Khoo, I like Dead Poets too, it has some flaws as a film ... corny predictable sentimentality in places ... but the underlying message is a good one.
"What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly." (What the SOMist calls a gap in his metaphysics, the MoQist calls a new life.) I shall take the poetic version of that thought into the weekend, along with all the other poetic allusions of amazonian butterflies, metamorphosis and free flight "wider than the sky" that has triggered. Thank you, master ;-) Ian On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Khoo Hock Aun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marsha > > I recollect one of my favourite moveis Dead Poets Society where John Keating > played by Robbin Williams have his students read the introduction to the > book Understanding Poetry by a fictional Dr. J. Evans Pritchard, Ph. D., > which describes how to place the quality of a poem on a scale, and rate it > with a number.It would look like if we put all of Art on a scale, we could > reduce Quality to a number. Intellect as SOM would have it dehumanises and > reduces our experience to that of a cold hard rock. > > He later has the students stand on his desk as a reminder to look at the > world in a different way, just as Henry David Thoreau intended when he > wrote, "The universe is wider than our views of it" > (*Walden<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden> > *). > > I think the Western concept of of SOM only based Intellect is too limiting. > it may seem all persuasive and pervasive now. But even in the Western world, > non-SOM intellect remains a potent force in recession even though with ready > adherents who seek its renewed expression. Some, a number on this list are > too ready to apply their fearsome intellect to the dissection of Quality > into its metaphysics and manipulation on a scale of some absurd kind. > > As in the Dead Poets Society, the key to the non-SOM Intellect worldview is > poetic vision; the capacity and ability of artists, whatever their craft and > talent to see the world differently. The hunger for poetic vision, and their > forms of expression only testify to the great emptiness in a worldview > imposed by what we know as Western Subject Object Metaphysics. > > 'The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and > tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a > butterfly." *Illusions - The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah" *by Richard > Bach - 1977 > > > Best > Khoo Hock Aun > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Khoo, >> >> What do you think? >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> At 04:38 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote: >> >> Greetings Khoo, >>> >>> Yes, I think it is intellectual, and much, much more. >>> Everything-is-connected-to-everything would make it an ever-changing, >>> collection of interrelated, interconnected, inorganic, biological, social >>> and intellectual, static patterns of value within a flow of dynamic quality. >>> A piece of marble might be an inorganic spov, but a Michelangelo's David? >>> Well that is so much more. >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 04:21 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote: >>> >>>> Marsha Is Art: Painting, Poetry, Sculpture, Theatre, Music and all these >>>> non-SOM stuff intellectual activity ? Best Regards Khoo Hock Aun On Fri, >>>> Nov >>>> 28, 2008 at 5:15 PM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:28 AM >>>> 11/28/2008, you wrote: > > Give me some examples of patterns you deem >>>> "intellectual" yet, isn't >> S/O-based. >> > > Bo, > > Didn't you ask and >>>> get replies to this question a few weeks ago? > > > E=mc² > > --- > > >>>> STARDUST > by Kay Ryan > > Stardust is > the hardest thing > to hold out >>>> for. > You must > make of yourself > a perfect plane-- > something still > >>>> upon which > something settles-- > something like > sugar grains on > >>>> something like > metal, but with > none of the chill. > It's hard to >>>> explain. > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > . > . > > Shoot for the moon. >>>> Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... > . > . > >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> > Archives: > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6016-301 4079 Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>> >>> . >>> . >>> >>> Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the >>> stars......... >>> . >>> . >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>> >> >> . >> . >> >> >> Shoot for the moon. 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