Hi Steve, that's pretty much how I would see it too ... as regards
Harris ... I was impressed with his pragmatic philosophy behind the
militant headlines.

It's great to have Dave and Matt again debating the varieties of
(classical & radical & neo) pragmatism worth having. in order to see
where the differences are significant (if at all) to a pragmatist. The
timing is good because I've unpacked and been re-reading my Rorty
recently. I can see why Dave might find his tone almost nihilist, but
so far the differences between the pragmatists sound to me more like
cup half-full vs cup half-empty - analytic (accentuating differences)
vs synthetic (accentuating their fit). Although I have a better feel
for Rorty than I did previous times around this loop, I still don't
yet have a feel for what is fundamentally different about the
"radical" pragmatism in the James / Dewey / Pirsig stream. Still
reading and listening. Working my way backwards to Emerson (and
Thoreau).

You have to smile when Dave says "it's all about Bob" :-)
For me this all illuminates (and is illuminated by) the MoQ.
Ian

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Steven Peterson
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> I've been very interested in the so-called militant atheist movement,
> especially in Sam Harris.  Atheists are generally described by theists
> as materialists since they do not endorse the supernatural. I have
> been wondering if someone like Harris may be better described as a
> pragmatist. ...  How would a
> pragmatist argue that religion isn't a good tool?
>
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