Well, Platt, in a free market of ideas, it's not
socialist centrally planning and carving their
own limited ideas burdening the world with
their dullness as you well might know. They go
around pretending they can lecture with brute force, it's
an Empire mentality. I don't blame them. They grew up
in one stationed in over 130 countries around the world.
Since they've all but run out of ideas... trying to kill everybody's
free-thinking, sucking them dry with an absence of moral
regeneration, and if they could completely suppress creativity
via useless degenerative blindness, dulling, dulling, dulling,
dulling... so sad and ruinous.
As this forum provides a great example of how to kill
creativity and thought cloaked with deception changing Pirsig's
philosophy and putting their own hands on the electrode trigger
socially engineering people to their whims. With raging hate
and arrogance without a knowing or moral effort... a dying
breed artists are in this forum...,
woods
P.S. Well, before i get sucked dry by the venomous vampires
in this dead to the world forum. My little testing of waters has
unfortunately proved correct. I know by experience now
how far the degeneration in a supposed intellectual forum has
befallen. Monsters grow in this forum. Nourished by fruits of
immorality. A rotted immoral forum it has become.
peace out,
and don't come a knockin'
a sharp point will be
waitin' if you try to
force anything on me...
Moral Liberty!
Moral Regeneration!
Woooooohhhhhhhooooooooo...!
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From: Platt Holden <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:46:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] socialism
[DMB]
> Platt says "those claiming to be Pirsigians who continue to support the
> beneficent wonders of socialism are quite obviously in a state of
> catatonic denial".
> Pirsig wrote:
> "That's what neither the socialist nor the capitalist ever got figured
> out. From a static point of view, socialism is more moral than capitalism.
> It's a higher form of evolution. It is an intellectually guided society,
> not just a society that is guided by mindless traditions. That's what
> gives socialism its drive. But what the socialist left out and what has
> all but killed their whole undertaking is an absence of a concept of
> indefinite DQ. You go to any socialist city and it's always a dull place
> because there's little DQ. On the other hand the conservatives who keep
> trumpeting about the virtues of free enterprise are normally just
> supporting their own self-interest. They are just doing the usual cover-up
> for the rich in their age-old exploitation of the poor. Some of them seem
> to sense there is also something mysteriously virtuous in a free
> enterprise system and you can see them struggling to put it into words but
> they don't have the metaphysical vocabulary for it any more than the
> socialists do."
> "It is not that Victorian social economic patterns are more moral than
> socialist intellectual economic patterns. Quite the opposite. They are
> less moral as static patterns go."
> dmb says:I have two questions for you, Platt. (1) How many times have I
> posted these quotes for your edification? (2) If you want to scold someone
> for being "in a state of catatonic denial", don't you think it's about
> time you looked into a mirror? I must have quoted this stuff at you 20 or
> 30 times over the years. It's pretty clear to me that you don't give a
> damn what the MOQ actually says about these things. Go ahead now and do
> what you always do. Toss out some different quotes, the ones that allow
> you to persist in your denials and willful ignorance. But please
> understand that everyone can see what Pirsig is saying here. Capitalist
> never figured it our either and they don't have the vocabulary anymore
> than the socialist do. One can't honestly or fairly condemn just one side
> for a mistake they both make and yet that's exactly what you do over and
> over again. It is intellectually dishonest, if not downright stupid. What
> baffles me the most is that you apparently feel no shame or embarrassment
> about it.
DMB proves what I said about denial. It makes no difference whether
capitalists are supporting their own self interest or have a proper
metaphysical vocabulary. That's all irrelevant to the fact the free market
is better than socialism. The MOQ explains why.
Intellectually dishonest, stupid, no shame, no embarrassment. DMB is
projecting again. He's learned well at the feet of academic leftists.
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