Hello everyone ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:12:28 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MD] The MoQ, by Jove! > > [Krimel] > > I suspect that Pirsig does not deny external reality but Dave and Dan do. > They claim Pirsig is with them on this and I think they may be right.
Dan: >From what I understand, the MOQ does not deny external reality. Inorganic and >bilogical patterns of value correspond to objective, external reality, social >and intellectual patterns of value correspond to subjective, internal reality. This reminds me of a zen story where a group of monks were on a journey. One night they stopped to make camp by a large boulder. One of the old monks asked the group if the rock existed inside their heads or not. After some thought, one of the young monks said: the rock exists only in my head. The old monk looked at him and said: your head must be very heavy. Krimel: One of > the reasons I would cite for my own skip of faith in accepting that there is > a world that existed before and will continue after me is the kind of > confusion that seems to infect those who deny it. Dan: Yet you'll never know if you're right or not... >Krimel: > I also think that the MoQ is not about a particular conceptual framework, > like the "levels," but provides a way of examining any conceptual system. Dan: Possibly. Thank you, Dan _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
