Platt to Andre: Each of us is relative to morality. But, since DQ is not defined, each of us can respond to it any old way we want including ignoring it all together. After all, Pirsig says we have free will.
Andre: Correct Platt, but am not sure what you mean by 'any old way'. The MoQ is a wonderful 'finger' no? And, yes, we can ignore it altogether with all the consequences Pirsig so forcefully describes in Chapter 20- 24 in Lila. Platt: We can follow DQ if we want. But since it is some sort of vague betterness, we are free to define that betterness as we wish, depending on our life history. Andre: I have a different interpretation Platt. From an MoQ perspective we cannot not respond to DQ. We do it all the time. We are patterned quality and we realise this. Are you 'some sort of vage betterness'?? in relation to your organic and inorganic 'levels'? And isn't it a dynamically exciting place (in a high- and low quality sense ) that this has been achieved through the diversity of 'life histories' (i.e expressing [as in 'living'] patterns of value...the villains,the martyrs, the artists...you and I. Platt: That's moral relativism. Andre: Question: is 'moral relativism' a SOM concept? Andre: Does the expression of this diversity subtract from morality (as lived) or add to its richness? If evolution indeed shows an expression of freedom from static patterns, i.e. from inorganic, to organic to social and intellectual PoV's, towards an aesthetic harmony (as Pirsig argues) the impossiblity/unacceptability of individual freedom to respond to DQ ( and this concerns you in the name of some 'moral relativism') will lead to the acceptance of societies you (and I ) vehemently abhor. Morality is not a thing'. It is not a concept. It cannot be 'relativised'. It is the 'undifferentiated, aesthetic continuum', and we are patterned expressions of this. Platt: That's what concerns me. Any thoughts? Andre: I do not share your concern Platt. Once you climb inside the MoQ, once you become aware that you and I ARE those patterns, and stop seeing the MoQ from the outside as some sort of theoretical ,conceptual framework, things will begin to be a little clearer, at least it does so for me. IMHO. I think I may cop some flack here...well let it come. Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
