Hey Andre, Andre: > I did not want to create the impression that DQ is something 'out there' > Arlo, quite the opposite. We are 'patterned'/'stabilised' DQ.
Yes, we are static patterns of Quality. But we are not DQ. DQ is something we perceive and, under some circumstances, respond to. Otherwise, how to explain: "This, Phaedrus thought, was why little children are usually quicker to PERCEIVE Dynamic Quality than old people, why beginners are usually quicker than experts, why primitive people are sometimes quicker than those of 'advanced' cultures." (Lila, 9) and "The patterns of life are constantly evolving in RESPONSE to something 'better' than that which these laws have to offer." (Lila, 11) and "These patterns can't by themselves PERCEIVE or ADJUST to Dynamic Quality. Only a living being can do that.' (Lila, 9) As for DQ being a force, like energy, one need only refer to such statements as: "Biological evolution can be seen as a process by which weak DYNAMIC FORCES at the subatomic level DISCOVER strategems for overcoming huge static inorganic forces at a superatomic level." (Lila, 11) and "Natural selection is Dynamic Quality AT WORK." (Lila, 11) plus many more statements in Chapter 11. And let's not forget the seminal premise of the MOQ: "Although Dynamic Quality, the Quality of freedom, CREATES THIS WORLD in which we live, these patterns of static quality, the quality of order, preserve our world." (Lila, 9) Pirsig makes it clear through the story of the brujo and in other places that it is the individual responding to the creative force of DQ that is currently driving social and intellectual evolution. If someone has a contrary view, they ought to be able to support it with the evidence of quotations from Pirsig's writings after ZMM when he discovered the existence of Dynamic and static quality within the broader category of Quality. Remember that he said of experience: "Dynamic Quality comes as a sort of surprise . . . Static quality is what you normally expect."(Lila,9) As you say, Andre, DQ is not something "out there." It is part of the Quality experience. But it not part of everyday experience. It's rare and wonderful: "It was applied to manifestations of skill, fortune, blessing, luck, to any wondrous occurrence. It connoted any phenomenon that transcended the run of everyday experience. In other words, 'Dynamic Quality.' " (Lila, 9) Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
