[Ham] 
> The problem...is that Pirsig has rejected subjectivity and 
> you are all trying to get around it by impugning value to the 
> insentient universe. 

Ham, 
Instead of interpretting Pirsig in a way contradictory to your 
position, why not look for an interpretation compatible with yours? 
After all, Pirsig believes that individuals assess value & that 
high/low quality is relative. 
Craig 
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