Would the real Paul Turner please stand up ? As DMB suggested, this one doesn't sound much like the original. I mention that because there are / have been a number of "false personas" with assorted motives on this forum - so I say with caution ...
Reading this holy grail stuff - symbolically, metaphorically - is interesting. Mentioning the Fama Fraternitatis is interesting too - I'm just reading Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum" at the moment and it "draws" on that source. It also includes the warning "You're not taking me seriously, by any chance, are you ?" Regards Ian On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Paul Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > Follow up to the Duality; > > Last time I was talking about Duality and ways to overcome it leading to, > namely - the Holy Grail, the idea of a rising from the muck by way of the > water from the Holy Grail) : > > The Grail is obviously symbolic, not a earthly form (I'm not here to argue > about the existence in earthly from of the cup of Christ) as an aside it is > sad and so unfortunate to note just how many people , who should know > better, insist on searching for a physical grail) but that is beside the > point. lets move on. > > The prize for each of us is the immersion, the purification, the baptism of > water, wine and spirit in the Mixing Vessel, the Holy Grail. This Mixing > Vessel, the Holy Grail, filled with all the powers and attributes necessary > for our return to the Light-World, really does exist. It has always existed > and will continue to exist as long as there remains one single human being > who has not yet found the way back home. However, it exists not as a form > but as a vibration and, because of its purity, it can never be touched or > tainted by the lower, I-central self. It is tragic that in the popular media > it is continually treated as 5 sensory search. > > That is why in the Fama Fraternitatis R.C., published in 1614: > > 'Thus our Building, even if thousands were to see it from nearby, will > forever remain untouched, indestructible, invisible and totally hidden from > the wicked world.' > > So there is a divine power with the aid of which the spiritual Self latent > within us can be restored to life. In this way the human connection with the > Absolute is reestablished. This divine power -- the power of the Spirit, or > 'Tao,' as the Chinese call it -- is freely available to all. Nevertheless, > access to it is one of life's deepest mysteries, for it cannot be touched by > any of the faculties inherent in the I-central self. > > The science of enabling this power to function in us so that the true, > original Self can grow, while the self of illusion -- the I-central self -- > can be purified into stillness. This is our task. > > *Phaedrus *discovers the Tau te Ching. I knew at that point that he, > *Phaedrus > *was making the connection between "Value" and the "Tao" His whole ego > personality gets demolished, which is a good thing for his soul - he has > found the Grail and from that point on he can have nothing to do with the > dialectical world. He is tossed out the front door of the University. The > University symbolizing everything we think we stand for in this world. That > wonderful description of the Aristotle/Plato conflict in parts of the book > is wonderful. Personally I have now realized that the "Value" Robert Maynard > *Pirsig *is talking about right through the book is indeed I think > "Gnosis" or pure knowledge which of course can never be grasped by our > intellect and is completely outside of the dualistic Aristotle/Plato > dialogue. > > That is all for now - the next step is to talk more about duality and how > our two worlds interact, and gain a more complete understanding about the > mechanics between the Divine and the unDivine > > Paul > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
