Platt to Andre: As far as I know all ideas held by me, you and everybody else, whether anarchists, republicans or totalitarians, are SOM-based. Some good, some bad. My original point was that Pirsig suggests an entirely new, non-SOM reason for favoring free markets -- that they are more open to responding to DQ. The fact that others supported free markets using SOM reasoning is totally irrelevant.
Andre: I am not at all convinced that Pirsig is favouring free markets. Just because the MoQ provided the conservatives with the vocabulary to describe a free market as a 'Dynamic institution' doesn't make it any more virtuous (than anything else). The fact that it is dynamic and therefore virtuous does not hold for Pirsig (as far as my reading of the MoQ goes). The virtue that the conservatives see is just that this Dynamic Quality supports their own self interest.(Lila, p 225). In other words, you are using Dynamic Quality as an excuse, a justification and cover-up to keep on exploiting, denigrading and demonizing the poor, the misguided, the unfortunates,the bloody hard working ordinary people as wel as the victims of this self same free market institution. And, of course you are not the only one. The entire American Dream is built around it and millions are sucked into it...blaming themselves for not making it. ( Albert Hammond's 'It Never Rains In California' springs to mind). Very, very sad indeed. I have suggested to you a few times now that the theories (derived from scientific discoveries) that underpin the (amongst other things) economic foundations and practices of the Western world are hopelessly inadequate, misconstrued, flawed and contradictory and, may I add, highly destructive.( this has proven itself on several occasions and you do not need to be a lefty/commie observer to see this). You can tell me anything you like but Mr. Pirsig is not so stupid to accept this nor your conservative justifications. Platt: Anyway, can we agree, Andre, that not all SOM thinking is low quality? Andre: Absolutely. It takes wisdom to separate high quality from low quality and act accordingly. To quote Pirsig once again (seeing you appreciate this so much): '...trying to do what is right (and I gather that that is what you are doing [it is very populistic and therefore has a massive following] is following SQ'. '...trying to do what is GOOD, is following DQ'. Now that takes alot of intestinal fortitude. I am assuming you know the difference between doing what is 'right' and doing what is 'good'....? (of course you do...you've read Lila). Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
