Nick, "undefined fittest" is the ability to survive change, the ability to change with the environment. Adaption is good. Adaption is moral. Adaption is lifes purpose. To exist is moral and good is what it boils down to.
Some pick and choose, some misinterpret, some pick and choose based on their misinterpretations. Does adaption mean the pursuit of happiness? if happiness means existence perhaps. So if natural law is anything it is the right to exist not much more. -Ron ________________________________ From: blue-jay maple <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:22:50 PM Subject: [MD] pursuit of quality is mentioned in LILA QUOTES ARE BELOW as to what the statement of pursuit of quality means. What the pursuit of happines statement is. It is a teleological statement. Pirsig says quality is teleological. QUOTES BELOW... but first... What is so troubling about this forum and why what five people are here is because of rejections, dismissals, and a bias against the MOQ and Pirsig's own writings. People reject in this forum what they DON'T KNOW about. It has created a bias in the flourishing in this forum and only a handful of people are here due to arrogance and IGNORANCE of Pirsig's own writings. IGNORANT cause people don't even understand topics Pirsig covered in his books and people in this forum pick and choose what they like and reject a whole mass of other quality understandings. So when people like me come here - they dismiss them right away WITHOUT ANY GOOD REASON. READ THE FOLLOWING QUOTES AND UNDERSTAND: Even Pirsig agrees that the pursuit of quality is good. The pursuit of happiness is a teleological statement. It also means the pursuit of quality and the pursuit of flourishing and pursuit of excellence. Pirsig favors teleology. To not understand teleology and to reject it is to reject the MOQ. Lila: "This would at first seem to contradict the one thing that evolutionists insist upon most: that life is not responding to anything but the 'survival of the fittest' process of natural selection. But 'survival of the fittest' is one of those catch-phrases like 'mutants' or 'misfits' that sounds best when you don't ask precisely what it means. Fittest for what? Fittest for survival? That reduces to 'survival of the survivors,' which doesn't say anything. 'Survival of the fittest' is meaningful only when 'fittest' is equated with 'best,' which is to say, 'Quality.' And the Darwinians don't mean just any old quality, they mean undefined Quality! As Mayr's article makes clear, they are absolutely certain there is no way to define what that 'fittest' is. Good! The 'undefined fittest" they are defending is identical to Dynamic Quality. Natural selection is Dynamic Quality at work. There is no quarrel whatsoever between the Metaphysics of Quality and the Darwinian Theory of Evolution. Neither is there a quarrel between the Metaphysics of Quality and the 'teleological' theories which insist that life has some purpose." Nick: "undefined fittest" also is unbias liberty in action. This is what understanding what the teleological theory of human nature aka pursuit of quality is. Another quote on the Law of Nature: Lila: "The Metaphysics of Quality says that if moral judgments are essentially assertions of value and if value is the fundamental ground-stuff of the world, then moral judgments are the fundamental ground-stuff of the world. It says that even at the most fundamental level of the universe, static patterns of value and moral judgment are identical. The 'Laws of Nature' are moral laws." The Natural Law of human nature is a MORAL LAW. Nick -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
