as you say, many, many ways.....
----- Original Message ---- From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:39:31 AM Subject: Re: [MD] anti-intellectualism Ron, Do you gain something by putting me on the defensive? I never said Mr. Pirsig's quotes were unreliable. I said they are used to support many-views. How do you interpret this quote? "While sustaining biological and social patterns Kill all intellectual patterns. Kill them completely And then follow Dynamic Quality And morality will be served." (RMP, LILA, Chapter 32) Marsha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of X Acto Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] anti-intellectualism I thought Pirsig quotes were un reliable since they may be twisted to support anyones viewpoint. and you just used it as a philosophologistst would. as an absolute source of truth. ----- Original Message ---- From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:19:50 AM Subject: Re: [MD] anti-intellectualism While sustaining biological and social patterns Kill all intellectual patterns. Kill them completely And then follow Dynamic Quality And morality will be served. (RMP, LILA, Chapter 32) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of X Acto Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MD] anti-intellectualism Anti-intellectualism describes a sentiment of hostility towards, or mistrust of, intellectuals and intellectual pursuits. This may be expressed in various ways, such as attacks on the merits of science, education, art, or literature. Political cartoonist Thomas Nast contrasts a scholar with a prize-fighter. His caricature encapsulates the popular view that sees reading and study as being in opposition to sport and athletic pursuits, although the bovine figure of the fighter is no less negative than that of the scholar. Note the different sizes of the men's heads.Anti-intellectuals often perceive themselves as champions of the ordinary people and populism against elitism, especially academic elitism. These critics argue that highly educated people from an isolated social group tend to dominate political discourse and higher education (academia). Anti-intellectualism will often be expressed within communities through declarations of Otherness, that is, intellectuals will be said to be 'not one of us'. Those who mistrust intellectuals will represent them as a danger to normality, insisting that they are outsiders with little empathy for the common people. This has historically resulted in intellectuals being painted as arrogant members of a different social grouping. In rural communities, for example, intellectuals may be viewed as "city slickers" who know little of the country and its ways. It is also common for communities to typecast intellectuals as foreigners or members of ethnic minorities, for instance as Asians. Along with this, intellectuals will often be said to be prone to mental instability, their critics insisting there is a medically proven connection between genius and madness. Communities where religious faith is strong may endeavor to link intellectuals with the promotion of atheism, while the sexual mores of intellectuals can be also placed in doubt in some cultures where they can be suspected of high promiscuity, homosexual tendencies, or lack of interest in sex at all.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Intellectualism DMB ought to get a kick outta this, "The causes of anti-intellectualism are varied but include a belief in some forms of pragmatism, whereby the intellectual is seen as irrelevant, since truth can be determined more through doing than thinking abstractly or the memorization of a lot of recondite facts. Others see intellectuals as the embodiment of elitism, or as being opposed to the interests of the common people. Some combination of philistinism, populism, and belief in an elitist conspiracy might also help explain the phenomenon of anti-intellectualism." http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/WhyAntiInt.htm Ron: What is really interesting is how Pirsig makes sense of the anti-intellectualism movement that threatens society even more than the objectivism which initiated it and is able to make the distinction between Pragmatism and anti intellectualism. MoQ really illuminates the problem in this case to make the distinction between objectivism and the backlash against it as the real problem of "SOM". Lila chpters 22-24 go over this in detail. 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