"Where's the concrete?" wheres the beef
in ones mind in this I mean, in meaning. my memory, a collector of experience simplified, exaggerated. gestalt references. I was very conscious of gestault shifts as a boy and tried to induce them, with practiced control I could flip between two. it always fascinated me how one could see the same place two different ways literialy two different versions of the same experience. I can do it still, by taking roads I have never taken before when they connect to a recognizable intersection the shift would occur as it snapped into place then I could flip from dynamic to static for a few moments. why I love to take the superglide out on a sunday morning among the rolling farm country and go exploring. ----- Original Message ---- From: John Carl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:15:37 PM Subject: Re: [MD] of sanity and intellect Here Ron, I came across this this morning apropos of your post and would only add to the words of the Buddha, "Where's the concrete??" John The SURANGAMA SUTRA as quoted by Jack Kerouac in a compilation of his writings Some of the Dharma "You have doubtless heard about the insane man, Yayattadha in this very city of Sravasti. One morning he looked into a mirror and saw his head but it had no eyes nor eyebrows. he became very angry with his own head and blamed it as being the head of a goblin because it had no eyes or eyebrows, and ran away quite crazy. What do you think, Purna? Did the man have any good reason for becoming crazy?" Purna replied:--It seems to me, Blessed Lord, that he had no other reason than this, that he was crazy already. The Lord Buddha replied:--Purna! Our mysterious Intuitive Nature is perfect and enlightening and its natural perfection is intelligent and profound. Since the True Nature is free from all illusions (the True Mind), so the illusions are naturally devoid of any reality, and, therefore, have no source of existence. It they have no source of existence, they are no longer illusions even. All these thought-illusions have been raised by mean of their own reciprocal manifestations thus the piling up of delusion upon delusion has been going on for kalpa after kalpa as many as the particles of dust in the air. Though the Buddhas have disclosed their falsity, yet sentient beings cannot at once recognize their falsity and return to their natural state of enlightenment. The source of these delusions is nowhere else but within one's own mind. As soon as you understand the source of a delusion, the deluding conception loses its hold upon existence. If within your mind you provide no source for these false conceptions, there will be none to be discarded. Those who have attained enlightenment are as if awakening from sleep, and their past life seems only a dream. However clear one's memory may be, it is impossible to reproduce any dreamed of object---no matter under what conditions or causes. It would be more impossible for you to grasp that which has no hold whatever upon its own source of existence. Like the insane man of Sravasti who ran away because of the wholly imaginary and fantastic thoughts of his mind, with no other cause or conditions. If this insanity was suddenly cured, his consciousness of his head would just as suddenly be recovered, and no matter whether his insanity is cured or not, his head is on his body. Purna, the illusions of the mind are just as fantastic and no more basis for existence." > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
