In Platos works of Socrates, often debators would get angry and frustrated with Socrates, they wanted to argue a point and come to a truth conclusion. Socrates answered questions with questions dispersing the others contentions of truth convictions with related contentions of truth and justice in koan like fashon.
What does it mean to say that truth is relative? does one mean that all truth are equal and meaningless? or provisional and contextual having pertanace and meaning pragmatically? were the ancient sophists relativists or pragmatists? depends apon the point of view if one seeks universal and absolute truths, laws of conduct and action. then they would seem to be relativists for no arguement of truth terms may be made against them for those desiring right, truth, good, law this is disturbing Some sophists may have been guilty of using socratic method as a rhetorical weapon, to render an opponant defenseless and open to rhetorical ridicule and attack. Leaving public opinion of them ripe for the truth of Aristotle. And the condemnation of the Sophists Perhaps it was those Sophists, the ones using Socrated method as a rhetorical weapon who brought on their own ruin. -R ----- Original Message ---- From: X Acto <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:00:08 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ? Jan, Desire is what it seems to be about the crafting of it of the utmost importance does one desire truth to be right and others wrong vengance security rightousness vindication superiority or wisdom ----- Original Message ---- From: Jan-Anders <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:33:26 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ? Wisdom is the ability to choose the type of salami at your desire. I just love the strips where Effie Munyon hangs at the grocery looking for a fat joint and walk home with a stinking cuttlefish. I mean all aren't interested in the best. Desire can be confusing if you look close. Desire is best at a distance. (No smell) Jan-Anders > > Marsha said to someone (whose name is irrelevant to my point) > > "You have as much wisdom as a thin slice of salami." > > I think there is a very important point here. > > We can tie ourselves in intellectual knots debating isms and ologies - > and yes some of that is indeed necessary to promote and develop ideas > - but it's not itself the whole point. > > I say (I just said in fact), we are wise if we can apply MoQ to living life. > > So if salami isn't it, what is wisdom ? > > Ian > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
