I don't have much to contribute on this debate. I come from a very different place as far as health insurance is concerned. I must admit I find myself laughing a lot at the hyperbole on the talk radio - which I get a lot since I don't watch tv. What amuses me the most is the assumption which seems to be underlying all the emotion generated that if you don't have health insurance, you're gonna die. I got some bad news. Even if you have really good health insurance, you're gonna die. And it's been my observation that the more medical intervention you experience in your life, the lower the quality of your life is gonna be and the sooner you will die.
I have two examples in mind, my mom's husband at 75 and my wife's mom at 57 both contracted lung/liver cancer. Big cancer in the main trunk of their bodies with prognosis of around three months to live. My wife's mom was radically committed to the whole health care system and did everything the doctor recommended. Sure enough, she died right on schedule, just like the Dr. ordered, with chemotherapy really screwing up her body and life for the last month and a half. My mom's husband, Hal, didn't go in for the chemo. Chemo wipes out the immune system. So they did a juice fast and various alternative therapies and so far he has outlived his Dr's prognosis by almost a year and his cancer is still growing and growing more uncomfortable, but he lives a pretty functional life. He won't last forever, but his life is his own and not an appendage of the hospital/hospice cabal. Now if I broke a leg or an appendix, I'd go to the Hospital, but for the most part I'm determined NOT to let them blood sucking SOMish quacks get their money-grubbing hands on me and if I come down with some fatal disease, then my health plan is to get better or die. Not because I can't afford health care, people as poor as me get free health care already, but because I don't think their health care is all that healthy. But then, people think Lu and I are crazy already because all five of our children were born at home away from the medical establishment, even though it cost me more to have a midwife than it would've to have Medi-Cal pay for a regular OB. I'm also pretty lackadaisical about retirement. The year I'm too old to put in a garden, I'll starve. My wife and children are instructed then to toss my remains in the diggins for the feeding pleasure of the coyotes. Hopefully not for a while. I'm feeling pretty good right now. John the health nut On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: > Arlo (or anyone else reading) > > Help me out here. I've spent some time searching for some mention of these > so called "Death Panels" and all that I seem to find is, effectively, > propaganda by generally right-wing fear-mongers equating a possible decision > making process with this emotive terminology. All I can assume from this is > that it is just that - fear-mongering and emotive hyperbole. I doubt that > Platt will actually give me anything like what I asked him for so I'm asking > you - is the term "Death Panel" used in any official capacity in the > proposed healthcare legislation. Probably a dumb question - but with some of > the things I've seen come out of the USA in recent years I suppose it's > possible. > > Cheers > > Horse > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
