[Bo]
Wonder what Arlo and Steve say if they spot it?

[Arlo]
Arlo would say that he agrees with Pirsig, that the MOQ is just another finger pointing at the moon. Arlo would say that "S/O" interactions begin at the social level, inherent the very act of symbolically encoding experience. Arlo does not see S/O patterns (which, as he just said, begins at the social level) as the "problem" of intellect, but the consideration of their PRIMACY. The MOQ, as all symbolically encoded understandings, simply says that a better intellectual pattern than one that sees the S/O split as primary, is one that sees Quality as primary.

Thus, Arlo does not "fault" intellect for extending S/O encodings that begin at the social level, but rather a SOM that elevates this S/O distinction to being primary. Arlo sees the MOQ as, also, extending S/O encodings (by virtue of it being a symbolically encoded pattern) but denying their primacy. Instead the MOQ points to a primacy that precedes the S/O distinction.

But it, like any and all other symbolically encoded descriptions, can only "point", as the "ineffible" (to quote Platt) is always and everywhere only approachable through metaphor/analogy. As such, Arlo sees the intellectual level as that which considers the socially began S/O encodings as "things" in and of themselves. SOM-intellect concludes they are "real", the primary distinction of the world. MOQ-intellect says they are secondary, illusions cast out of a more primary event, Quality.

But Arlo doubts you are genuinely interested in what Arlo has to say, as he has been down that road before. Since Arlo does not agree with Bo, it invariable leads only to comments about how stupid Arlo is not to recognize the genius of Bo.





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