[Arlo previously]
By this same logic, schools in America in regions of "less diverse culture" should do better than both schools in America and schools in F/J in areas of "largely diverse populations".

[Craig]
Bad sampling. You need to compare schools in cosmopolitan Tokyo to a cosmopolitan American city & in rural Oklahoma to rural Japan.

[Arlo]
Well the variable in question was only that schools in areas with "less diversity" perform better than schools in areas with "more diversity". You are adding a new variable (urban-rural) to the equation, saying that population-size also has an effect on educational performance (hence the need to hold it constant).

But if we compare (as had been the original case in point with Finland and Japan) areas there are here we DO see that in both urban-urban and rural-rural comparisons, they outperform us most of the time.

The question, I suppose, then becomes. Is there truly less diversity in rural Japan than in rural Oklahoma, so much so that this alone accounts for the difference in education results? And this takes us back to, how are we defining "diversity"? Because if we compare Oklahoma City to, say Funabashi, I'd want to know what variables are being used to determine one is more diverse than the other.

[Craig]
Again, bad statistics. In order to be legitimate, you need to compare a diverse school district with bottom -up control with one with top-down control & a non-diverse school district with bottom-up control with one with top-down control.

[Arlo]
But, again, Craig, the only variable in question was that schools in areas with "less diversity" perform better (when education is handled via "central planning") than schools in areas with "more diversity". "Top-down" and "bottom-up" control simply adds another variable to the equation. Indeed, you seem to say here that comparing schools with different levels of "diversity" is in err, since both of your comparisons pit only "top-down" against "bottom-up". In my example (SC/BE), both schools have "top-down" planning, both are "public state schools", so those variables are held constant. The difference is really only one of "diversity". Well, the SC district is larger, but educational results take this into account. Its not that SC has MORE high performing students, but a greater percentage of the total student population performs better. So, again, I think its valid to ask, why does SC outperform BE if, as is being suggested, schools in areas with "less diversity" perform better than schools in areas with "more diversity".


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