[Ron]
... but if you want to keep dry humping the burning effigy of arlo
like some rabid horny dog, be my guest.
[Arlo]
....
daaaaaammmmnnnn.....
......
We go back to Pirsig's "all this is just an analogy", and the "logic"
of developing a definitional system of an undefinable concept.
When Pirsig wrote that developing a definitional system of an
undefinable concept is "is essentially a contradiction in terms, a
logical absurdity.. almost like a mathematical definition of
randomness" (LILA), he was aware (and untroubled) by the inevitable
paradox that would result. It was the same paradox that he found
when, as a young student, he turned science method upon itself.
Pirsig explained the results of this recursion as such. "What this
means logically is that as you try to move toward unchanging truth
through the application of scientific method, you actually do not
move toward it at all. You move away from it! It is your application
of scientific method that is causing it to change! ... It is a
catastrophic logical disproof of the general validity of all
scientific method!" (ZMM)
"All this is just an analogy", like I said, when taken
self-reflexively, is a self-denying statement. Its yet another
version of the well-known "This statement is false" example.
Postmodernists and Zen Masters don't struggle with the linguistic
contradiction of this. I actually am amazed anyone here does. Didn't
we move past Zeno a while back? (Pun intended)
But let's back up all the way to my original "postmodernist"
contention that "all static patterns" are in some degree of flux,
whether they change in minutes, years or over billions of years. Can
anyone name ANY static pattern that is NOT in some manner of flux? Is
that really rocket science to some people?
That's why expressions like "more permanent" are "Koanic" and fun.
They point to the incompleteness of language (of all symbolic
systems). Such word games only illuminate the void, make us away of
our illusions.
But like I also said, Ron, Platt's motive here was certainly not
dialogue, as he has offered up not one substantive point. Instead,
its just been an excuse to attack me. Something got his g-nads all in
a knot, my guess is the vitriol du jour on his talk-radio programs
was about them evil "acerdimics" again. Who knows...
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