Hi Squonk,
This is just a quick one which I did not want to leave up in the air.
Hi Andrea,
yes, this was left up in the air. When you stated that 'love is all' i could
not take it seriously and kinda left it at that.
I suggested that emotions are a biological response to Quality but not
Quality itself.
I got the sense that you insisted on maintaining your point of
view,reducing all responses to quality, to emotions which is fine. But
I had lost the reference in Lila's Child and have now found it.
In Annotation 141: Mr.Pirsig says:
'As I understand the term, 'emotivism' is a way of reducing all value
to biology, thus making it a part of the SOM universe. The MoQ sees
emotions as a biological response to quality and not the same thing as
quality. There are many cases, particularly in economic activity where
values occur without any emotion'.
squonk:
Yes, i was kinda waiting for the emotivism thing to be thrown into the
discussion.
RMP's assertion that emotivism is part of the som universe is so, as long as
one uncritically accepts the moq.
I do kinda accept the moq, but i've been stunned myself to realise that
emotions are the only mode we, as humans have,
of feeling good, or bad, about any experience, whether it be logic, art or love.
Also, RMP's assertion that economic activity occurs without emotion is, i would
vouch, nonsense.
If 'the market' gets 'the jitters' or 'lacks confidence' then banks can go
under when there is a run on them.
Think 'Northern Rock' in the UK for example.
Within only the last week the UK government has admitted that it loaned two UK
banks Billions of pounds secretly for fear
there would be a domino effect and all hell would pay.
In short, economics is the sum total of emotional responses to betting; it's
gambling in order to become wealthy.
If that isn't an emotionally driven activity then i am not sure what is.
To be sure, computers may replace humans when speculating on the stock market,
but the aim is for capital.
I think there is secondary evidence for universal quality, but even this
assessment is sanctioned emotionally.
Bodvar may argue, and I think his classification is helpful in this
sense, that emotions are a social PoV. A biological response to...and
a social PoV is not necessarily a contradiction in terms.
Just wanted to clean this up...if only for my own peace of mind.
Regards
Andre
squonk:
Thanks for the continuation.
I personally don't find Bo's views coherent.
And his ability to simply to ignore inconvenient arguments is legendary.
bOstrich tactics?
All the best,
squonk
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