---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Carl <[email protected]> Date: Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:44 AM Subject: Re: Fw: REPORT ENCLOSED: D-Q University: Rise Again, Fall Again; But Never Ever Forget To: Lee Pono <[email protected]>
Dear Lee, Thanks for the documentation. I appreciate the background. There's a lot I'm aware of because I've been interested in DQ for a few months, and I have a good internet connection and all the advantages of time on my hands due to the current unemployment situation. But having the history summed up in such a cohesive way is very helpful. I talked to Rudy, yesterday morning, after he got back from his meeting, and told him what I am about to tell you and the rest of the committee, bearing on the subject, tone and content of our request drafts to the Patwin/Wintun tribal elders and Dr. Jack Forbes. What has come to my mind, is that we should split our efforts in the interest of efficiency. That is, there should be two different committees and factions in our group, each focused precisely upon specific tasks. This should not be "breaking into factions" in a mean-spirited, competive or negative fashion, but rather a division of labor that suits our individual drives and skills. To my mind, we are two factions with two differing goals. There is a faction I call "DQU" which represents the efforts to get a fully functioning, Indian University going again, and "DQC", which stands for DQ Community, which more than anything wants to build a community reflecting the goals, principles and attributes of Deganidewah-Quetzecoatl. Now, as I say, these two factions are not at war (how could they be when they serve the Great Peacemaker?) but attending to differing aspects of the struggle with "the powers that be" and what seems plain to me, is that those who wish to establish a living communal tribe devoted to DQ, are those that would compose the proposal to the traditional people who held these lands, to the best of our knowing, the Patwin/Wintun Elders and that those who are most motivated and engaged with the effort to regain accredittation, to build a University of highest Quality devoted to DQ, are best communicators with Dr. Jack Forbes and his original vision of what this place was supposed to be. And both sides support and aknowledge the other with no difficulty in trying to get the other guy to see it "my way" or "his way" or "this way" or "that way", but each taking his task according to the moving of DQ, and finding the unity in brotherhood that Peacemaker teaches. That's my opinion at this time. Looking forward to more discussion. John Carl On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Lee Pono <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear John: > > Have ff you Steve Jerome Wyatt's excellent document on the rise and fall of > DQ U. After I read it, it gave me a better understanding of the depth of > complexities which surrounded the university. Your point on how hard it is > to get the current Board out is on target. As Steve notes in his paper, the > lies become so pervasisve that it becomes the truth especially with respect > to the Board's relationship with the NonNative legal/governmental > entities. So, Elder James advice to obtain the blessings of both Patwin > spiritual/traditional elder Bill Wright and J. Forbes is very important as > it would legitimize this group especially with regards to the concerns we > are raising (ie lack of any classes being offered at DQ U, has not achieved > accreditation, etc). How their blessings would translate into any > legal/business authority with respect to federal, local agencies remains to > be seen. But, hopefully, with Elder James guidance we will be able to > manage it. > > Have not heard any updates on what the Attorney General Jerry Brown has > decided with respect to DQ U. Seems to me, AG Brown's office is taking > their sweet time..don't know if the case is complicated for them or > what...well, will see.. > > Hope this answers your question..I heard the second meeting was pretty much > as the Wednesday meeting..looking ff to hearing your thoughts on the > matter...Take care and stay dry, Lee > > > All places of worship are symbols > of the One Beloved. > Bow your head when you see a temple, > and salute when you see a mosque. > When the flowers of the church, mosque and > temple gather together, > Spring will blossom forth > in Your garden, O Lord. > Darshan Singh > > > > --- On *Sun, 11/8/09, Steve Jerome-Wyatt <[email protected]>*wrote: > > > From: Steve Jerome-Wyatt <[email protected]> > Subject: REPORT ENCLOSED: D-Q University: Rise Again, Fall Again; But Never > Ever Forget > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 2:04 AM > > > TO: Lee Pono > > Here is the report/position sttement we promised to send. It's official > title is *"D-Q UNIVERSITY: Rise Again, Fall Again; -But Never Ever > Forget."* > > Please feel free to share it with whoever you may deem appropriate. > > RE: the question you asked in your e-mail message: when we say "and having > said all that we would, we will be leaving you -for now," it means that we > ourselves don't know how long it will be until we speak with our Brothers > and Sisters again. > > Sometimes it could be the next day, for example, in a follow-up e-mail > message. But sometimes it can be years. It all depends on the particular > issue were working on, at the time. > > I hope this response has been helpful. > > Steve Jerome-Wyatt > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
