Didn't see how this thread started, but I'm assuming this summary is Mary's ?
>
> Conservative = Social Level
> Liberal = Intellectual Level
>
Excellent IMHO, whoever we "admire" (perceive quality) in words and
action we need to recognize BOTH of these.

Now, the idea of US patriotism makes me want to throw up, but if we
could interpret this more globally as something like humanism rater
than patriotism (I belong to a nation called humans), then we may have
a worthwhile discussion.
Regards
Ian
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