Big thread, Mary started. But yet, as much as the title "MoQ and Religion" interests me, I haven't really addressed it much.
Truth is, it's hard to know where to begin. Even harder to know where to stop. D-Q Whatta concept. I started thinking I had it all figured out. Ever since I read Lila, I figured DQ must be an analogy pointing to the same force analogized in the new testament bible as "holy spirit" or "that which says what is good and what is not good". And then I saw the signs. Literally, signs. Along a california freeway, pointing to something called DQ University. What a joke, eh? Good one. Well, I looked a bit deeper into the whole thing, and chronicled it all here, so I won't belabor it into the ground, but then as I mentioned to Marsha, it started to seem like DQ was eating my life. Starting with a dream I'd had, which had meant a lot to me, and now seemed to be pointing to this DQ as a real, living, conscious entity that enters one's dreams and directs one's energies. Just like Jehovah used to do in the old testament. What am I supposed to do with that? Read more, I guess. Keep poking, keep thinking. Keep wondering. What choice do I have? And then I run across something known as "the Mad Bear Prophecy". It wasn't Mad Bear Wallace's prophecy, it belonged to the old women, the witches of the tribe and it looked to me, and it still does, like it was actually, factually, pointing to watashi. So I'm a bit freaked out over the whole thing. Thinking, how to explain this to Marsha, for one. And I keep trying to fit the pieces together. I probably should look into the whole thing much more deeply, but hey, I'm having a hard time with what I've got so far out of this process, I ain't in the mood to be begging for more trouble. Other times, I think what a cosmic joke. I think of the Great Spirit grabbing RMP's MoQ anti-theism and using it and DQ as a whole new basis of religion. Is that a hoot or what? I mean, why can't the intrinsic value of the cosmos as a whole instantiate on occasion? It makes a certain sense. Empirically speaking, we've got more than a few reports in history: From the beginning, man has had intercourse with the gods and the spirits, and surely there's more to that dialogue than "social pressure", no matter how oft Bo repeats that aspersion. So I dunno. The MoQ and religion. The MoQ as religion. When is it proper for an intellectual pattern to devour a social one? Any damn time it feels like it, I guess. It's a higher level using a lower, and that's the moral way, right? Does that mean its ok to manipulate the mythopoetic impulses of a credulous people to indoctrinate them in a new way of thinking about values and their relationship to a SOM society which has repressed, dominated and pounded them down for centuries now? It seems like it'd be moral even if I had to make some dreams up. But since I'm not even lying, it should be even easier - right? Wrong. Lying would be easier. It'd be maintaining control. Being a being at the whim of forces undefined is way out of control, and I like everybody, hate being out of control. Worse yet, I can't even talk to anybody in my life about my life anymore. Where to begin? Right here is the only place I can share my thoughts because it all evolved right here and I don't even know if it's ok or not. It feels almost like a weird hijacking of the whole MoQ, but on the other hand, how can I stop? How? Always the problem. Like once you start describing the bricks, they keep stacking up higher and higher. Was it Hemingway or Capote who said there are two things a writer needs - the courage of his convictions and knowing what to leave out. Come to think of, I vaguely remember it as Capote quoting Hemingway, so that makes it a twofer. The courage of my conviction, that's pretty easy I guess. I have so little else that it remains a shining, obdurate gem in an otherwise bleak and meaningless existence. The second part, what to leave out, I'm learning. But it's hard. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
