[Bo] Yes. SOM has been superseded by the MOQ as ultimate reality, but the S/O distinction has not been abolished, rather relegated the role as MOQ's 4th. level. Much of Greek philosophy may no longer be taken seriously, even its basic subject/object matrix is superseded by the DQ/SQ one, but "statically" it is still most valuable - it's modernity itself - as Pirsig says in LILA democracy is an intellectual pattern.
[Krimel] All you are talking about is one description of ultimate reality being superseded by another. Reality is perceptual, empirical and continuous. Words and other symbol are conceptualization of perceptual experience. They are intellectual patterns. Greek philosophy is a set of conceptual intellectual patterns that displaced, (to the extent that they actually did displace) older intellectual patterns rooted in animism. But those animistic, anthropomorphic patterns are also intellectual patterns. Mythos is little more than our nostalgic affection for the Logos of yesteryear. But BOTH are part of the intellectual level. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
