Well thinking about rules and organization and all, it occurs to me that for proper thread maintenance, the author of the thread oughta keep the topic of conversation to what the heading says. If this makes sense, then I have a confession to make, forgitve me horse for I have sinned, I've started threads and not followed them to completion.
For penance, I'll do better in the future. Or maybe I won't. I'll do better in the now. Right now, the topic is one I've raised which is the force or development of the levels is always from the higher in DQ toward the lower in DQ. Any biological animal has choices in its movements in its environment, absorbing, changing and working non-organic being. Every social level is there for the purpose of nurturing, maintaining and creatively perpetuating the biological beings that make up the society. The creative force is found in the existing society to create life, to shelter and train up children in human society, to the rules which require just the alpha male and the alpha female to have breeding rights within the wolf pack or the elephants to circle outward in the face of danger. And out of the intellect of man, arise ideas which create societys. Ideas which individuals adopt in common, seeing the good sense of them, those societies which do a good job last, those that don't, disappear. That's natural selection. but social success doesn't mean intellectual quality anymore than a cancerous growth equates with biological health. At the intellectual level, formulations are not confirmed by their seeming success. The natural upward forces of natural selection falters in the realm of intellect. Intellect itself is not inherently nature-oriented or natural. It is possible for unnatural ideas to dominate an intellectual system, create an unnatural society, and grow and engorge and destroy the world. As unnatural ideas I'd include ideas that put chaos. entropy and death, the anti-life ideas. as the center of existence. Thus the problem is within intellect, even though it is intellect that is creative of all the rest and intellect that is naturally aligned with the universe, the most precious jewel amongst a million stars. That's the postulation of the upside down evolution, it is that force for change comes not from random elements coming together by chance and creating life, or biological beings happening to just show up one day in a building and decide, Hey, let's have a church service. Or a bunch of words on the screen suddenly making sense and so people go, hey, look at this combination of words, it looks like an idea for a philosophy. Top down, not trickle up. John the patient thread maintainer Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
