Hi Khoo 21 Jan.u wrote:
> Bo concludes after commenting on the half-baked SOM of the Orient and > the woolly mess in its wake that: The Western MOQ will be a better > "Buddhism"! I would certainly like to see this if it were to be so: } > What are we talking about here: An intellectual pattern better than > another intellectual pattern...? Right, this is NOT what the MOQ is about. It is a metaphysics that has a sub-set called "intellect", and I believe this is what Buddhism/Taoism also have realized, namely that "intellect" is the obstacle to Buddha or the Tao. > A Dynamic aspect better than its Static aspect? The Dynamic/Static configuration IS the MOQ and the two are interrelated, there can't be one without the other. > A better route than another route to Reality? A better REALITY! > Is there a Western MOQ to begin with ? I do not remember Pirsig saying > as such in either ZAMM or LILA ? To begin with ...? The MOQ emerged out of SOM and as such it is Western, but in its view the East is understood and as I pointed out - a little tongue-in-cheek - makes for a better "Buddhism". To conquer the enormously strong SOM required an equally strong tool and IMO the level lay-out is that tool. > In what way will it be better? As mentioned because the Oriental SOM did not grow so strong before the "Quality" breakthrough it caused a blurred border between intellect and Tao . At least how Westerners interpreted it, I remember reading Alan Watts before Pirsig, but being unable to grasp it. > The way Muslims say Islam is better ? > The way Christians says theirs is better ? No, no forget these low social patterns!! > Science says its better, because they seek the Truth, > Nothing less nothing more. Now, science - intellect's foremost pattern - is something else. I'ts MOQ's highest static level. > Is this what the Western MOQ is about ? Truth Seeking, Reality Seeking, > Morally Speaking ? Evolution on to Better State, Or an Ultimate Reality, > an Ultimate Good ? That is better than the other "Good"s? Always better, > never lesser. "Ultimate Reality" matches best IMO. And apropos this issue, I hope you agree with me that there is not a Buddha different from the one that Buddhism talks about, which corresponds to the silly Quality/MOQ "meta-metaphysics". Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
