HI Ant, Kirimel, Mark, all,

Ant said:
> I also looked at a paper by Stephen Hawking on the Second Law of 
> Thermodynamics (“Life in the Universe” found at 
> http://hawking.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=65).  I 
> don’t see any disagreement in the latter with what Pirsig has written about 
> the subject in Chapter 11 of LILA.  Pirsig uses the example of how organisms 
> create order out of disorder on very much the same lines as he uses the 
> example of birds
> flying into the sky (when they “defy” gravity).  Even though they are 
> illustrating the same point (i.e. biological
> patterns operate on different laws to inorganic patterns so often evade them 
> or overcome them) the issue of how Pirsig has used gravity (in the example) 
> never seems to generate anywhere near the controversy written about the 
> Second Law of Thermodynamics.  My guess is that the creationist vs. science 
> debate is a more sensitive issue in the States so people (on both side of the 
> debate) are reading into Pirsig things he simply did not say.


I read that Hawking essay you linked to. Very interesting. I don't see
anything there that is inconsistent with Pirsig and I agree that the
Creationism debate is "probably the explanation foreading into Pirsig
things he simply did not say."

Best,
Steve
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