Hi Mark,
Mark:
Perhaps there is another way to look at this. There are many forms of
understanding. One could be to divide something up into multiple
pieces like disassembling a car. One can understand the car in terms of
something that gets you to where you want to go. Or a car could be understood
in terms of its comfort.
Ron:
No arguement, comfort is a way to understand. But is it a high quality idea
to value something or believe in something by virtue of the comfort it provides?
It certainly could be a viable justification for belief, but I question the
wisdom
of making Pragmatic value judgements based on the comfort they provide.
I think that is the main question, for me atleast, regarding the formation
of belief in regard to religions.
Mark:
There is no problem understanding God (if you are so inclined), where the
problem lies, is in conveying that understanding to another. You cannot
break it up into little pieces, it does not take you anywhere, but in terms of
comfort, it may be understood. God represents a feeling. Once
it is objectified, it becomes confusing to relate.
Dynamic Quality can be dealt with in the same way. It is perceived as an
awareness, such as the awareness of beauty. It is perfectly possible to
"believe" in beauty. When the term indefinable is used, it simply means that
Dynamic Quality cannot be surrounded and shaped by words. How would
you define your first awareness into this world? Maybe WOW?
Ron:
Thats a bit of a rhetorical question, I do not remember by first awareness,
but, reflecting on it, I would think one would need a comparison to form a
"wow".
If I was surrounded by beauty at every moment, would it cease to be beautiful?
Mark:
Yes, it is all beliefs, you are right there. But the question is: does the
belief add something to your life? Are there things which add more than
others? There are levels of belief for the individual, and it is useful for
sharing.
Ron:
I think if that sort of attitude was more commononly embraced,that of
questioning
and weighing our beliefs, religion would'nt have the connotations that it does.
But you see, more often than not, belief is used as a justification for our
prejudices
and thats something we, as MoQ'ers, Pirsigians, ect.. try to diminish in our
lives.
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