Bodvar to Platt:
As said a couple of times I think Pirsig's prostrating himself before
Buddhism is directly counterproductive after having "received" a much
clearer Western system of wisdom that turns circles round the woolly
Oriental article.
But to be more specific, this reflects the "Quality/MOQ" issue.To Pirsig
the Quality=Reality insight was the all-consuming issue, afterwards he
would better stand on one leg and stare into the sun of Quality, on the
other hand he could not resist working out a system, but this was really
a vice and he had to "flog" himself for this sin.
However, nothing comes out of the Quality=Reality insight, it's as stale
as the Indian fakir staring into the sun, the MOQ IS the Quality,...
Andre:
Nothing could be further from understanding and appreciating..., even
coming remotely close to, developing a feeling for Mr. Pirsig's
intentions, his feelings of compassion towards the current fate of the
Western world, expressed in devising a metaphysics of Quality.
Bodvar treats an millennia long history of 'Oriental' thought on
Quality by first of all reifying it, ('the Oriental article' 0 and
then dismissing it as such. This is arrogance (disrespect) of the
highest order.
Further, since Mr. Pirsig has been so wrong in all his attempts at
'improving this world' by producing the Moq, and you two find so much
fault with it, I suggest you start up your own site.
You two keep on criticising what you do not understand, and I will
quote Mr. Pirsig where he says so (Annotation 133);
'This kind of comparison is done by people who are not seeking to
understand what is written but only to classify it so that they don't
have to see it as anything new....I see a lowering of the quality of
the MoQ if you follow this path of subordinating it to that which it
opposes.
This was of course aimed at designating LILA as a SOM document, but it
seems to me that, not only do you not understand SOM, you also do not
understand the MoQ. (This is like Peter taking over from Jesus).
The MoQ is NOT reality. How fucking stupid can you get Bodvar??? This
is where my 'something wrong'...something wrong' antennae went into
red. The MoQ is not reality and if you think it is, you have turned
your outside sock inwards again.
Of course you will deny, twist, stick to you static interpretation of
the SOL/ Intellectual level (everything over the past 13 years appears
to have revolved around this issue for you) but to show such
disregard, such exalted position I find offensive. You do it your way
and he does it his way but as far as I am concerned you two are the
flies in the MoQ soup! (the ointment you have spoilt)
Andre
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