On 21 Feb 2010 at 15:17, gav wrote: > hiya, > > > Platt > > Seems to me that conservative principles such as democracy, > > trial by > > jury, > > freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of > > assembly, > > freedom of travel, limited government, private > > property, etc. as > > established by the U.S. Constitution is best NOW unless you > > have > > something better to offer. > > democracy is a great idea. america (or australia) doesn't have it - at all.
How so? > trial by jury....great idea for a criminalised existence. how about lore over > law? So you favor anarchy? > freedom of speech? - to say what where? the media is owned by billionaires You can say what you want. That doesn't mean society owes you a microphone. > freedom of the press? ha! - read manufacturing consent by chomsky Chomsky? Thanks for the laugh. > freedom of assembly? - except if you constitute a threat to national security > - ie arbitrarily withdrawable Not arbitrary. In the U.S. you need a court order. > freedom of travel? - less than what is it 5% of americans travel o/s, so > what's the point - insularity rules. freedom to travel the well worn tourist > trail is not really travel anyway. if you do take to the open rod you will > pretty quickly run into trouble - police or otherwise. The point is you are free to travel if you want to. Doesn't mean you have to. > limited government - any government is illegitimate. Ah yes, an anarchist. > private property - is a crime against the planet. perpetual leases would be a > better idea. Leases from whom? Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
