Thanks gav, I agree. But you know, it wasn't me that came up with it, it's that dang author from whom I get my ideas.
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:04 PM, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > nice one john - that is brilliant!!!!!!! > > --- On Mon, 22/2/10, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: John Carl <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism: my experience > > To: [email protected] > > Received: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 8:21 AM > > I never got that quite till Pirsig, > > the whole "love of money" thing. What? > > > > > > But "love" is where we put our source of value. And > > money is a social > > pattern. Loving money is an immorality, subjecting an > > intellectual value to > > a social one. > > > > But its not just "a" immorality. It's "the" > > immorality, for there is no > > evil in nature, only the intellect of man is capable of > > evil, when it > > subjects intellect to social or biological satisfactions > > alone. Or loves > > money. > > > > I start a full time job monday, working for a new > > organization, Soleil > > Farms, we're gonna teach permaculture and Fukuoka Gardening > > and sell > > clay-seed balls to the local nursery. And they are only > > about five minutes > > from my house. > > > > Woo hoo! > > > > Minimum wage is a lot when I'd be glad to do it for free. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:36 AM, gav <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > correction: 'the *love of* money is the root of all > > evil', that is the > > > exact quote. > > > mammon mia > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 21/2/10, gav <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: gav <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [MD] Capitalism: my experience > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Received: Sunday, 21 February, 2010, 7:03 PM > > > > hiya, > > > > just thought i'd share something i became aware > > of recently > > > > whilst working as a gardener. > > > > > > > > late last year i was travelling around the > > country and had > > > > stopped to see friends in a town called > > castlemaine > > > > north-west of melbourne, in country victoria. > > whilst there i > > > > picked up some gardening work through a friend > > and did some > > > > gardening at a couple of places, working with a > > very > > > > interesting bibliophile called john. > > > > > > > > anyway to cut to the story - i didn't enjoy > > getting up and > > > > going to work - i didn't want to do it. it wasn't > > any > > > > problem with the work or with john, or the > > locations. i only > > > > figured out what it was sometime afterwards. > > > > > > > > after working with john i spent the best part of > > a week > > > > doing a gardening job for my friends in > > castlemaine - to say > > > > thanks for letting me stay with them. i mowed, > > snipped and > > > > tidied their gardens; built two vegetable beds > > and a 3-bay > > > > composting system and eventually planted it all > > up (i got a > > > > text two days ago telling me my friends in > > castlemaine were > > > > eating lettuce, basil and tomatoes from out of > > their > > > > garden). this work was a joy to do - i enjoyed it > > immensely > > > > - it was creative and absorbing and stress free. > > > > > > > > what i realised through all this is that working > > for money > > > > is an essentially alienating exercise. working > > for free, or > > > > as exchange is quite different - it is ...noble. > > it builds > > > > trust, friendships, community.... > > > > > > > > money is the root of all evil? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
