Arlo,

When I said earlier something about a society that promotes:


> the ethic of working productively, making something useful as opposed to
> pimping, running a gambling parlor or owning a bar.
>
>
You amused me with your response:



> [Arlo]
> Ah, the smack down on "vice".... Without getting into this entire list, how
> dare you say operating a tavern is not "useful"? It's one of the more
> "useful"
> occupations I can think of. You suggest that the presence of "bars" is
> going to
> cause society to "degrade"? You can keep your prohibitionary view, John,
> I'd
> loathe to live in a society with no taverns or pubs...



And of course I agree with your sentiment completely.  But neither would I
want to live in a city where there was nothing BUT pubs, dives, and various
dens of vice.  Such things have their relative value in an industrialized
culture, but there is a fitting ratio - no more pubs than churches and you
need some workers to pay for the beer.

Tha's, all,  proper proportions.  It's like a recipe.

schools + churches > bars








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