Hi John
You posts get sloppier and sloppier not even bothering with who you
are addressing, but otherwise you are a nice fellow..
25 Feb.:
Bo before:
> > Did you notice Pirsig's about the "Early books of the Bible"?
But if one studies the early books of the Bible or if one studies
the sayings of primitive tribes today, the intellectual level is
conspicuously absent. The world is ruled by Gods who follow
social and biological patterns and nothing else. (Pirsig to P.T.)
John:
> Ok, the oldest book of the bible is Job. It's also, I'd say, the most
> philosophically interesting and contains a description of DQ in human
> affairs, delivered by a waiter, that I find fascinating. So I sure
> dispute the "conspicuously absent" assertion.
Pirsig says that Q-intellect is conspiciously absent, NOT wisdom or
deep thoughts, when will you understand that Q-intellect has nothing to
do with thinking in general - deep or shallow - but the OBJECTIVE
approach that will find Job's "dialogue with God a mental case.
> SOM is objectivism is intellect. If you're gonna call the level
> "intellectual", then you're basically calling it "objectivist" because
> that's what intellect is and does, by definition. It thinks about
> objects. It objectifies reality. That's just intellect
A bit cryptic this. "SOM is objectivism is intellect" is that John
paraphrasing Bo? ...."It objectifies reality" Is that John's own opinion? If
so you are right, yet, these objective vs subjective variants is a very
late aspect of the 4th level which emerged as (SOM's emergence is)
told in ZAMM as the search for a deeper reality than the (above) "god-
ruled reality". And the rest is history, intellect gathered momentum by
the centuries (a break in the Medieval Times) and from Renaissance
and Enlightenment on it "won the West". The old God-ruled reality had
to accept its more humble role as "religion" i.e. a mere subjective faith.
Well that's all for K-class today, you can have a break.
Bodvar
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