No single part of the moq can be a stand alone entity, or exist without al 
other components.
There can be no painting without a painter, artist , or paint.
Even the objective observer is needed, to view the painting.
ask me in a simplified example.., wich part of my wife i like most , i can 
answer,maybe, her hair,or her hands.

But can i expirience benefits solely by owning her hands , or hair...? no, i 
need all parts to expirience
the total image.No components have any stand-alone capacities.

But i value your question, marscha, as a friendly door opener for my to state 
my case.
i have no case , i try to be an objective observer,i try to learn, try to feed 
my intellect, by examining
the toughts of spirits , thinkers , examiners.
These dont need to be academics,or writers.The thinking of a lister can be of 
more importance to me than some worn-out
out academics point of view.
needless to say ,of course, that i do not oppose to any academic in general.

stating my case , marscha, i have no case , but all cases are mine, i'm a 
seeker of clarity, crisp and clear images,of someones thinking,... but no 
Pheadrus.
But things we say , need to be true.

I'm reading "The genius and the goddes "(Huxley), right now, trying to use the 
intellect of Huxley's abstractions
in my understanding of "lila"..(the novelle within the stated definition of 
quality).
Understanding "lila"(the figure), as partially maybe the alter-ego Pheadrus in 
disguise...., and partially "lila"(caracter) 
as the ..goddes,supporting the intellect, the genius of the writer.

I think i can make a very nice abstraction regarding to the previus said, maybe 
if i have some spare time left over i will do so.

Or can this be a question for the listers, being "lila"(the caracter) Pirsigs 
alter-ego in disguise?

regards, Adrie

and for bodvar , ofcourse, i need to listen to your case.

regards, Adrie
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