Ok Adrie, You're getting a bit interesting here.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca < [email protected]> wrote: > And now for something completely different. > > I was reading "The last of the Mohicans" (James Fenimore cooper) and > discovered some words of timeless beauty. > 'yengeese' for Yankees used by the native population around the Great > Lakes, Lake Erie,Lake Michigan... > 'yengeese'what a beauty. > I just downloaded that book! It's funny, but relevant to discussions I've had lately on the usefulness of Academic pursuits. It used to be, the only way you'd get access and reference to the great works of literature was through some sort of academic orientation or support - as in college libraries and collections. But now, I just click on a icons on my wife's new iPad and viola, anything and everything I could dream of at my fingertips and more, available to me without admittance to any university, college or program. We may be witnessing the dawn of a new paradigm that ends the utility of specialized schools where you have to pay to gain admittance. Fascinating. But the academic world doesn't realize it. They're like Wile E. Coyote, who is off the edge but hasn't realized it yet and thus has not yet begun his fall. > > Lila, as caracter in the book is postulated by Pirsig with insanity, The > author projects this insanity on lila, without > the clear nessecity for the book or the caracter.There is no ground nor > cure , and when "Pheadrus" interacts in the book, > with the parameters Pirsig allows him to use,(objective observer , seeker > of truth), Pheadrus does not interact with this insanity. > > This is what really intrigues me. Thanks for drawing attention to this aspect. The way I take it, and took it, is that the "insanity" of Lila - the person - as described in Lila the book, is the perceived insanity of "otherness" from the framework of gender consciousness. To the male mind, the feminine seems crazy. To the female mind, likewise the male. Only the kwitzak haderach can interpret. That's a literary allusion to a work of fiction by Frank Herbert, "Dune", if you're not a science fiction fan like me. It's sorta like "shaman". An interpreter between two worlds. Its something Pirsig does in Lila that I find amazing, which Marsha agrees and will post the quote where he does this with little provocation at all. :) > As if the observer Pheadrus needs to stay away from the Lila-insanity. > Yet it is Pheadrus both in zzm, and in the real life of the author > propulsing Pirsig towards insanity. > Getting stuck... , am i getting stuck on this , or did Pirsig do so in > "Lila"? > > I don't think you're getting stuck. I think you're getting enlightenment. For to fully adopt the point of view of the "eternally other" (female to the male thinking, or vice versa) is to be in a sense, out of one's mind, or insane. A work of literature which deals with this very fundamental human problem on differing levels, is to my mind, genius. > One of the bottomlines of todays expirience is that ZZM ,by far beats > "Lila" as a better book. > > Well, I don't agree with that idea. It's offered a lot. Zen and the Art sure sold a lot more than Lila, but I'm convinced that ZAMM was for the many, and Lila was for the few. We here on MD are the few, so ... > Still , the geniuss of Pirsig shines thrue in the levels as postulated.It > shines thrue in the qualities of lila. > > This will be ok for today, i presume. > > Ok indeed, Adrie. Thanks for contributing and keep on please, John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
