good morning Ron, On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:55 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> John,John, John, > > Ya got me all wrong > > well, that happens. Its one reason for the give and take of dialogue. I get you wrong, you respond. you get me wrong, I respond. We go bak and forth till we're satisfied. > > pointing out how you seem not to have a taste for your own medicine > is not playing the authoritative Dad card. > > Well I beg to differ, Maybe its not how you mean it, but it is how I take it. And in very important way, that's a good thing Ron. It casts an interpretive light on my own actions which helps me see myself and understand myself better. And I did admit that I was projecting my own "tapes" on the situation. (i have a younger brother) > > > > Ron: > listen all I'm pointing out is that your a hypocritical jerk sometimes, > take it or leave it, or, just deal with it. > > thats right, deal with it John. > > How? How do I deal with being a jerk if I'm not sure exactly in what way my jerkdom is manifesting? To myself I seem to be perfectly fair and reasonable, open to discussing, open to ideas. I realize that's what everybody sees when they look at themselves, and I have admitted that we all need perspective from outside ourselves to get a truer picture. But I need more feedback than just the accusation. I need to understand the reason for the accusation. > > Ron: > oh boy,.. whatever John..when you get over yourself > we can talk about what I feel is self righteousness, > or not, but that I feel that you are being self righteous > is my opinion. Deal with it. > > "getting over oneself" sounds like a lifetime project; one that goes deep. I know what it usually means, it means a guy is taking himself too seriously. c'mon Ron, (my brother's name is Ron btw) Have I really come across as a guy who takes himself all that seriously? Dude! I'm a handyman on a chicken farm! My goal twenty years from now is to be a handyman on a chicken farm. When I cam on to this list I talked about pissing on my own hands in the woods. I bet this is the first time in your life you've ever told a farm hand who pisses on his hands to "get over himself". How does one define "self' righteousness anyway? Where does one's righteousness come from? Others? Society? Academic credentials? God? Xacto? Like I said, I'm a thumbs up kinda guy. I'll make peace any time peace is desired. But I don't kiss ass just because of academic reputation or "expert-ese" I do respect your opinion tho Ron, not because you're any sort of MoQ expert, but because you're 100% Qualified in my mind. That is, I've read your words, your thoughts on this list and I have always found them to be high Quality and that's what I respect. Quality words, Quality thoughts. So if it is your opinion that I need to back off, I'll back off and be good. Thanks for the input dad. And I admit, I have been a bad boy in that I knew it was a rhetorical low blow to frame the debate as I did, implying that the star academic of the show needs protection from the intellectual bullying of a chicken farmer. (childish giggling) Sorry. I'll try and be good. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
