Platt to Andre:
Can you give us some examples of "spiritual rationality?" Sounds
suspiciously like theology. But, of course, your adamant denial of
anything approaching theism precludes that avenue.
Andre:
Hi Platt, I think you are a little unfair and unreasonable now. The phrase
'spiritual rationality' comes from Pirsig. By this I think he indicated that
we, as inorganic,organic, social and intellectual patterns of value should
attune ourselves and stay open to the code of art...and remain on our wits
(pardon the expression). It includes our incorporating of 'religious' i.e
direct experience, so called 'spiritual' insights and understandings.
Come on Platt, I have only criticized (strongly I admit)religion, the static
representation of... and, more specifically, the confusion of religious rituals
as being the rituals being the experience itself and not that to which they
point/ reveal.
Phaedrus asking about the wafer... you mean symbolically? No it really IS the
body of Christ.
The MOQ accepts religious experience, and by that it means dynamic
experience... not the static representations of it. This is confusing DQ with
SQ.
Platt:
While you're at it, could you explain what "spirit" means in your world?
Andre:
I think that Pirsig meant the 'intuitive', the aesthetic, the undivided
aesthetic experience needing its fullest expression in static patterns of value.
Platt:
P.S. Of course, no one here is obligated to answer anyone's questions.
We're not in school, much to the frustration of some who think of
themselves as authority figures.
Andre:
You are right Platt. No one needs to answer anyone. And we are not in school.
We are here on a discuss forum... I would have hoped to perhaps learn from one
another and build on each others insights and understandings. If you, however,
want to post posts without expecting a response (like Marsha) why bother in the
first place? Indeed, stay home, stay in you room, stay in bed, wish yourself
unborn, a-social, un-human...a lonely, isolated island. Send the posts to
yourself. Objectify your responses to yourself...learn something for yourself,
keep yourself intact, keep your static patterns going...do what is reasonable
and expected. Objectify yourself.
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