Andre,

Please provide full quotes for a full explanation.  


Marsha   



On May 6, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Bodvar to Platt:
> 
> Page up and page down in LILA
> Pirsig harps on intellects undermining social control which has resulted
> in nightmarish conditions in many big Western cities. Only intellect's
> OBJECTIVE OVER SUBJECTIVE attitude that makes morals into
> subjective irrelevancies can work this ill effect. I need not repeat all
> you fine arguments, but great show.
> 
> Andre:
> What tediousness! I have quickly gone over LILA and LILA's Child and Pirsig's 
> use of subject-object metaphysics. He specifically uses (more often than not 
> it seems to me) the 'qualifier' 'conventional'. He refers to the 
> 'conventional subject-object metaphysics'. You two are superimposing this 
> onto the intellectual level (leaving intact all confusing difficulties 
> associated with this way of thinking)whilst Pirsig makes it clear that he 
> didn't need to get rid of them because the MOQ could 'encase them neatly 
> within its structure- the upper two levels being subjective, and the lower 
> two, objective. Still later I saw that the subject-object distinction is very 
> useful for sharply distinguishing between biological and social levels'.(LC, 
> p 530)
> 
> Continuing to brandish the intellectual level as dominated by SOM intellect 
> is simply not to understand nor accept the MOQ.
> 
> Bodvar:
> I need not repeat all you fine arguments, but great show.
> 
> Andre:
> 
> 'so while you're jerking off eachother...' (John Lennon)
> 
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