Bodvar to Marsha: "Rules for their manipulation .." smacks of thinking and/or intelligence, but thinking precedes the 4th. level by hundreds of thousand of years
Andre: Bodvar, are you really suggesting that 'thinking' does not take place at the intellectual level? Bodvar: But this is spot on. The objective, detached attitude leaves emotions, morals and values subjective disturbances that has to be stripped away to make way for progress. Andre: Progress towards what Bodvar? I am beginning to shudder at the thought of your 'future' world....will there be room for any human beings? Or are you saying that this is what the SOM pattern would have led us to if it wasn't for the MOQ? But then again, as I have suggested to you before, if you place the MOQ outside of the intellectual level (as you claim it is) and you even claim that the intellectual level is devoid of thinking, what are we poor thinking, socializing, feeling, farting, copulating human beings to do? You are still awaiting the second coming ( I suggested this in a previous post to which you did not respond). Waiting for the 'realization' of your 'Quality level, your 'super-rationality' whilst, when you stop thinking about it you'll realize that the Quality moment is right here, right now. That is what Mr. Pirsig has given us and the finger pointing... through which to possibly find your own direction.........and what you are taking away, my friend. I mean, what is this all about Bodvar? Are you on a prestige/celebrity mission or something? You are determining how I should experience! You are telling me how I should properly understand the MOQ! You are telling me how to reach enlightenment! I.e the Bodvar way. Sounds like some religious fanatics I know and heard of. Enough said! Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
