Arlo and Mary,
> > > [Arlo] > > > > What has been interesting over the years is to witness the psychology > > behind this. At the risk of pointing out the obvious, Bo's SOLAQI > > seems to be an attempt to place "Western Culture" as the morally > > dominant worldview, and reduces all non-Western worldviews to > > "social". That is, "we" (Western cultures) are > > "intellect", non-Western cultures are "just social", and so our > > superiority can be claimed. > > [Mary Replies] > Don't see it that way, Arlo. Non-Western cultures are SOM-based too. Just > as "guilty" of emersion in the subject-object paradigm. There is no > difference, as you say too... > > I DO see it that way Arlo, in fact, I agree completely. Western Culture already has materialistic dominance. It doesn't seem quite fair to beqeath it moral dominance as well. The whole social level = bad, intellectual level = good has been problematic for me from day one and I think Arlo, (as usual) makes some good points here. > Arlo: > The Buddha rests just as comfortably in > > semiotics as in gardening. > > Mary:The MoQ is as SOM as SOM can be. It can be nothing else. It's not in > a > higher level or a separate one. > > John: if the Moq is SOM then fuck it. I don't know why we're even bothering. > Arlo: > > > The MOQ is not a "burn > > down the universities" philosophy, it is a "reclaim the universities" > > philosophy. It does not condemn "science", it saves it. It does not > > dismiss rationality, but it expands its power. As DMB pointed out, > > the goal of the MOQ is beautiful science and intelligent art. > > John: Well said Arlo. And exactly to the point as well. Hear, hear. And dmb as well. Every once in a while a parrot gets it right. > It does this by explaining DQ in the SOM terms everyone can understand. > > Arlo: > > The SOL view offers us neither. > > Mary: > How so? > > John: I don't know if I would be able to explain this rationally Mary, this postulation of Arlo's, but yet I believe it with my whole heart. So where do we go from here? Intermittent John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
