[Steve] I sometimes think of biological patterns as waves in a sea of inorganic patterns and social patterns as waves in a sea of biological patterns and intellectual patterns as waves in a sea of social patterns.
[Cap'n Frank] In other words, a Venn diagram with a side of tartar sauce. [Steve] It's probably best not to get stuck on any one analogy. [Frank] You mean like Quality? Apparently not a bad stuck-ness. Different analogies point us in different directions. ( A disembodied finger points to a phantom trash-bin. ) Venn-thinking Ziggurat-thinking Cone-thinking This is not trivial. Grab an ox femur and smash your neighbor over the head. Steal his bananas and scamper up the nearest tree. Live to see another day. Grab an ivy league education and smash the shareholders over the head. Steal their life savings and scamper up the nearest Swiss chalet. That's living! Intellectual patterns and biological patterns are the very same patterns. Evolution -> freedom freedom -> power power -> moral choice => Ziggurat thinking bad ________________________________ From: Steven Peterson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 4:43:57 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Venn or Ziggurat I sometimes think of biological patterns as waves in a sea of inorganic patterns and social patterns as waves in a sea of biological patterns and intellectual patterns as waves in a sea of social patterns. It's probably best not to get stuck on any one analogy. "Language is the liquid...that we're all dissolved in...great for solving problems after it creates the problems." - Modest Mouse On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]> wrote: > Frank, I tend to think of the stack as a cone of pyramid, then you get > the circular (or square) Venn diagram by looking down on it. > Ian in response to Franf's: > > I often hear of the "levels" as if stacked up like a ziggurat. > Wouldn't a Venn diagram with 4 concentric regions be truer to the concept of > quality built of quality built of quality built of quality? > > Andre: > Or the ZEN circle. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
