Greetz, gang.

quote , "ron",......What you miss is the collective idea of the value of the 
individual.

reflection on collective idea.
a collective idea on socialism, in Belgium ,is different from a collective idea 
on socialism
in Russia, a collective idea etc, in Iceland. the subject diffuses further away 
if you import more exotic value's into the model
for instance, a collective idea in Palau about the subject socialism,....etc.

Idea's are produced by individuals, ideas's are not collective-generated .
But the collective of course can adapt on mainstream idea's or lesser ones.

Collective idea, wishfull thinking.

Value of the individual.
Economical value, showing a different picture on the economical value of a 
Lawyer, a factoryworker , or a child?
intellectual value,an idiot versus a genious-in.. value?

a painter, artist, lets take Van Gogh, only sold about 1 painting to a normal 
client, the rest of his paintings was
purchased by his own brother, buying them out of compassion,..............do i 
need to say more?.

opposing this example against "warhol", generating millions of dollars for some 
Campbell-soup pictures?
did warhol ever produce "art" or Beauty?nope.

value of the individual, not to define, ever.
Greetz , Adrie
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