Bo says to Ron, > > Ron: > > And the 2nd level is the physical level we know as "body" or experience > as > > "body", experience Bodvar, it's all predicated on experience so certainly > > the intellectual level is the experience of thinking. > > Bo:
> The 2nd. is the Biological level and its sworn enemy is the inorganic > (Physical) level. I don't know how to set all this nonsense right. Nor do I Bo, but I'll try. As enemy, do you think a flower shuns the sun? The roots shun the minerals? The first level is not the sworn enemy of the second. The inorganic composes the playthings of the organic. The toys, not the enemy. Let's see if it extends further. Certainly social levels use and toy with biological beings for their own patterned purposes. And objectivism reifies and toys with social patterns in its way as Marx shows most clearly. I think from this we can conclude that it's far more appropriate and accurate then to say on every level of being, the higher toys with and is creative of the lower. Thus the top-down approach is superior to the idea that inorganic clumps randomly form life, that life just happens to create social patterns and out of social patterns, objective ideas magically appear out of a bunch of random words thrown around by social patterns. The rest of your dialogue with Ron, I will leave in his capable hands. John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
