John said:
...Now if they'd invent a time machine first, so that the machines of the 
future could go back in time and fool the people of the past...

dmb says:
Demitri Martin claims to have a time machine. But it only goes forward at 
regular speed, he says.


Krimel reported:

Another dude talked about the metaphysical reasons that you will not be able to 
upload your consciousness into a computer. I found this depressing but think I 
know how to get around the problem. ...  Despite what you may have heard from 
dmb narrow AI is already passé. There are a couple of different approaches 
being taken in AGI but they would ultimately lead to an AI capable of passing 
the Turing test.


dmb says:

The dude with metaphysical reasons depressed you? Did he and I dash your dreams 
of someday uploading yourself? Of having a robot girlfriend? I think you have a 
fetish for technology. Gadgets are fun but let's not worship our own tools, eh? 




Krimel said:

The MoQ if it is relevant at all ought to have something to say or some way to 
deal with cyborgs and chimera, nanotech and 3D printing. 



dmb says:

ZAMM is all about our relationship to technology and science but it's fairly 
ridiculous to expect Pirsig to operate on that level of detail. And sadly, most 
people are only dazzled by the kinds of technology that serve the interests of 
advertisers. If nano-technology has the potential for medical miracles that it 
seems to, it would be crime not to pursue it. But that's the kind of question 
we should think about. What good is it? What purpose does it serve? What risk 
does it pose? Ask these questions about your robot girlfriend. "Can we?" and 
"should we?" are two different questions. I guess I'd be more interested in 
developing natural intelligence more than artificial intelligence. I even 
suspect that we NEED to learn more about the former before we can even think 
about doing the latter. That's probably what the depressing dude said, eh?




                                          
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