To add: It would seem that camp, looks more at changing the world than changing themselves because of those values.
----- Original Message ---- From: X Acto <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:01:15 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Side Step John, Interesting angle. When we take a closer look, fear does tend to tighten the grip on that which we feel is certain. Those defining patterns of self. We are our values. Since you tied objectivism with ego, rejecting it is allowing in a certain respect the ego to "Die". This is particulary frightening to those who have invested alot of "themselves" in the defining of their self. And lets face it, RMP asks us to re-evaluate our conception of self, what it means to "be". If you are not prepared to accept that then a value centered reality is not going to make much sense. It would hold little value for them. -Ron ----- Original Message ---- From: John Carl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 7:54:37 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Side Step Man oh man, Ron, you hit the nail on the head. As usual. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:10 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > Ian, > > good points > > I sense Platt and Bo DO believe in what their saying. > > and in THAT sense they are not being dishonest. > > BUT > > What we should ask ourselves, really reflect, > > why they hold the values that they do. > > Because it is clear, it's not for rational reasons. > > Rationality can't be grasped by rational reasonings, only Quality ones. What's missed by this little irrationality, is a good look in the mirror at the monster within that doesn't want to relinquish control. Objectivism = ego in control I'm starting to understand better all the time. Bo's clinging = fear of death. I told him to take shrooms, but does he listen? Stubborn north men in the dark gloomy thinkings, huddled close to the only fire they know. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
