John to Andy: > Nice post, Andy. Thank god for fresh blood now and then, that isn't trying > to sell something or promote wacko apocalyptic conspiracy theories.
I'm relieved to feel welcomed. > I posited once, intelligence as the criterion for the organic level. And > part of this postulation defines intelligence as any pattern which exhibits > rational (that is, self-interested) choice. I don't like your definitions (organic presupposes intelligent, rational = self-interested) but I appreciate you laying them out early. From this I can understand your later statements. So thanks for the primer on your terms. :) > And since intellect is the uniquely defining aspect of humanity, wherever we > find it in the universe, we know we have stumbled upon our moral brothers. I don't know what you mean by any part of this. It sounds like you are hedging your bets against your words being read by a hyperbelligerent shade of the color blue. Does this mean that we each have a moral companion in all intellectual beings and we should treat them as brothers? > Self-perpetuation is a pretty good definition too. Reproduction baby. It's > what they teach in biology class and that might be a clue. > > But again, I can see Magnus AI, coming out as a one-off, never reproducing, > and yet obtaining unto that blessed condition we deem Intelligence. > Artificial intelligence equals artificial life. Self-perpetuation does not imply reproduction. You show that you understand this by making an example of non-reproducing AI. I think you are being sloppy with the concept of equality. I think you mean presuppose; to have as a prerequisite; take as a given. (Excuse me while I fixate on defining terms. They are my only connection to you. I don't talk this way in real life; it lacks backspace, a clipboard, and handy dictionaries.) > Your doing great. I'm sort of arguing against, but you hold the orthodox > view, my friend, and that's a good place to start. Yet I don't see any disagreement except on our terms of expression. I dislike your choice of words but since you took care to define them I can decode your meaning and see that we agree on the matter at hand. Andy Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
