I remember Good ole Al. I wish he was around now I'd tell the old fart to practice his art get it done and them let them all howl
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:44 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > no, thats art > > in true Ginsburg spirit > > -Ron > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Carl <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 11:41:33 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] A larger system of understanding > > Ron, > > I agree completely. > > But the way I see it, dealing with fuckups is dealing with the past in > a constructive manner. Not whining about it, not worrying about it. > What's done is done and you can't go back so just forget what you > thought you were going to do and do something different instead. > > For instance, I just tossed out the cat vomit and the dogs thoroughly > enjoyed it. > > Can't quite call it "art", but hey... it worked. > > yours, > > John > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:35 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >> man, >> THATS the beauty of it, with the slipping away its constantly re-created >> >> lots -o -possibility plenty o' potential >> >> the medium of the artist >> >> When i was a professional illustrator, my best work incorporated my mistakes. >> >> >> i allowed the mistakes to take a dynamic part in the creation. >> >> it taught me much to be under pressure and to have no other recourse >> other than to just go with it, guide it with some art. >> >> Practicing the skill of competently dealing with fuck -ups >> >> is an art in it's own right. because if there is one thing you can bet on >> >> is a consistant flow of fucked-up situations. >> >> endless medium >> >> in which to create >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: John Carl <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 11:11:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [MD] A larger system of understanding >> >> Perils Ron? >> >> That has to do with the futute, and tis fear of a perilous future >> which bugs me the most. People always aftraid of what might happen. >> So many good ideas don't happen because you can't buy insurance. >> >> Like insuarnce is some sort of great relief. >> >> And worries. Like my wife always hits me with. What if the county >> fines us? What if the lender forecloses? What if something bad >> happens? What if I don't get tenure? >> >> What if, what if, what if, on and on and on. >> >> All of it sucking energy out of the moment. >> >> Worry-warts are the real damn sissies of life and all that future talk >> just makes me tired. >> >> You make the now sound attractive, and I'd like to go there. But >> every time I try and grasp it, now just slips away. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:47 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >>> John, >>> Oh, I agree, but neglecting the now for the comfort of past >>> comes with it's own set of perils. >>> >>> the now aint fer sissies, thats for sure >>> >>> -Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: John Carl <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 9:18:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MD] A larger system of understanding >>> >>> Hey Ron, >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hey John, >>>> >>>> one persons hell is anothers paradise eh? >>>> >>>> Thought is experience, but an experience that leads from the now. >>>> >>>> Bo would argue that MOQ is experience, but that assumes this idea >>>> is all of experience. But thought is not all of experience is it? >>>> >>>> -Ron >>> >>> I can't imagine any way of thinking about experience outside of >>> thought. If its not a percept, not a concept, then it's not any >>> experience I can imagine. >>> >>> And how can the MoQ be experience at the same time a tool for dealing >>> with experience? Where's the fun in that? >>> >>> Bo must be unsane. >>> >>> In my humble opinion, the now is way over-rated. I like living in the >>> past. It's so much more knowable, manipuable and non-threatening. >>> >>> The former John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: John Carl <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 10:57:54 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MD] A larger system of understanding >>>> >>>> Hey Ron, I had a thought: >>>> >>>> Thought is not a path to reality, it takes you farther from reality. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> My thought was, which part of reality? I mean, there is a small part of >>>> reality that is my thought, and thinking it takes me closer to that aspect >>>> of reality at least. >>>> >>>> But the rest fades away... >>>> >>>> Is that a good thing? Or a bad thing? >>>> >>>> If the rest of reality is better than my thought, then it's a bad thing. >>>> >>>> But if my thought is better than the whole rest of reality, it'd be a good >>>> thing to focus on it instead of the rest. >>>> >>>> We're always warned of solipsistic hells. 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