Hi Dave, Thx for the reply, been reading this fern- eagle item, short but nice, very nice. After this i was reading the continuation of the wars on Bo, been thinking about it.
Strangely i have the feeling to tell him he's on thin ice now... How can i tell him, in a friendly way, ...."Bo" i think you are solid as titanic as a man, but be carefull not to- HIT- the iceberg. The squirrel, yes , i'm shortcutting always , sorry for that, some of it is due lack of time, some about my rudimentair english. Well the squirrel can take as many position as possible , same goes for the observer. Yet both can go on indefinetly, staying out of sight for eachother. this model describes the "event horizon", as it is written there, both are in a different system of coordinates, and will remain so. they appear to exist in the same reality, but it is in fact our mind that is saying , they are,...(the observer is misled , as he is also in a different system of coordinates)(this represent us , now , making this example). But, Pirsig says, "we are the squirrel", and yes indeed, the squirrel needs to be the observer, (observing ONLY his reality) and the hunter is an observer,(observing ONLY his reality) then both realities are true at the same time. Multiple realities allowed at the same time, and note this , 'time' is in the model as there is a beginning of the hiding event and an end. as both realitys are different and true at the same time,then also time is different in both realitys( different systems of coordinates.) (relativity of time) Theory of relativity, time is relative, depending on the observer/observed: and system of coordinates. reality is relative, different event horizons are possible, different timescale's, yet all is true at the same time towards us, actors in this tought experiment. because we are in a different reality , we observe from an other point of view, another moment in time. this is a good conclusion, for the squirrel his reality is local , if he considers the hunters reality it is non-local and of course vice versa this is all an interpretation of relativity, and a good one. did some reading in pirsigs annotations on lila's child , Pirsig clearly and specifically objects to Bells theorem, this is a model concerning Local_versus non_local reality in correlation with space, but the theoreme does not violate what i'm saying above, nor pirsigs objections towards it. The theoreme is under debate until today. apparantly Pirsig was aware of this.(he is not mentioning this) Okay , this is for today, i have to sleep now , early shift you know Greetzz, Adrie Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
