Thanks for the post, Dave. I'll look for the book. There's no such thing as too much understanding.
Mary - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:moq_discuss- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Thomas > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 9:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] Babylonian intellectuals > > >>[DMB] > >> Despite that flaw.... > >> > >> "a culture that supports the dominance of intellectual values over > social > >> values is absolutely superior to one that does not." (311) > >> > > > > [Platt] > > You leave the impression by taking this quote out of context that > Pirsig > > supports your dull-city, liberty-smothering socialist-communist > allegiance. > > And you accuse me of intellectual dishonesty? > > >>[DMB] > >> I think it's a real fight and it matters quite a lot who wins. > > [Dave] > > No question that it is "a real fight and it matters quite a lot who > wins." > The question is whether the MoQ really brings anything new or better to > the > field. > > Arguably if after 15 years of heated discussions here there has been > little > or any progress made on he issues surrounding the social and > intellectual > levels let alone trying to unravel the mysteries of DQ the answer is > very > little. If, as we see in this exchange, (which has remained constant > and > consistent over the years) that the the political bias you brought to > the > table when you first came in contact with Pirsig's work rules your > moral > judgment of ideas, then the MoQ has added little or no value in helping > advance the decision making process or understanding of reality. Even > for > Pirsig. If ultimately our core understanding of reality is ruled by > our > political biases I say let's break out the nukes and get it over with. > > Some time ago Platt suggest to Krimmel that he read "Liberal Fascism" > by > Jonah Goldberg. I picked it up of the publisher's overstock table some > years > ago and recently made my second pass through it. I suggest that > everyone, > but particularly DMB, read it if you haven't. Pay particular attention > to > the relationship of pragmatism, William James, and John Dewey to > socialism > and more importantly fascism. Yes it is a decidedly conservative POV > but if > it's "a real fight and it matters quite a lot who wins" you might like > to be > familiar with the past battles and the lives sacrificed in the name of > social/political bias. > > Dave > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
